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clinton levels of spending. when you take that into account it doesn't actually end up closing yo gap when it comes to something which some other clinton alumni pointed out this week is a $86 trillion in unfunded liabilities for entitlements. >> that number is essentially fake. >> a lot of times when we're discussing this stuff, it is fake because government refuses to put it on the books because they don't want to acknowledge it exists. >> th not it. >> my point being i don't want to only talk about simplifying when we're not actually closing the gap. i don't want to only talk about the fiscal cliff when nothing we're doing is coming close to deal with these issues. melissa: we talk about how hard it is to simplify the tax code. our guest before you guys said the same thing. it could be really simple. we could put out three rates for people with absolutely no deductions exceptions. if you're in this group you pay 35% or whatever. make up your number. >> right. melissa: if you're in this group pay 30, and this g
clinton levels of spending. when you take that into account it doesn't actually end up closing yo gap when it comes to something which some other clinton alumni pointed out this week is a $86 trillion in unfunded liabilities for entitlements. >> that number is essentially fake. >> a lot of times when we're discussing this stuff, it is fake because government refuses to put it on the books because they don't want to acknowledge it exists. >> th not it. >> my point being i...
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if julian wants so much the clinton tax rates, that's fine, i'll go along with that if we had the clinton era vernment spending which we don't. >> brenda: okay. all right, we've got to go. thanks, guys. so, see this? last year, it was a union uproar in wisconsin and now we're seeing this. a different state, same scene, neil and his gang saying all taxpayers should be paying attention. that's at e bottom of the hour, but up here first, did you hear this? >> our people in an overwhelming supported this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo. >> brenda: a detroit council woman demanding a bailout after voting the president in. guess where the president is heading on monday? should taxpayeyeyeyeyeyennel. i'll sd you back to bulls and bears, me headlines just 30 mines away. >> we showed youhe votes. now show us the money. >> our people in an overwhelmingly supported the reelection of this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and ought to exercise leadership on that. of course, not just that, but why not. >> brenda: why not, huh? detroit council woman joanne watson asked for b
if julian wants so much the clinton tax rates, that's fine, i'll go along with that if we had the clinton era vernment spending which we don't. >> brenda: okay. all right, we've got to go. thanks, guys. so, see this? last year, it was a union uproar in wisconsin and now we're seeing this. a different state, same scene, neil and his gang saying all taxpayers should be paying attention. that's at e bottom of the hour, but up here first, did you hear this? >> our people in an...
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if julian wants so much the clinton tax rates, that's fine, i'll go along with that if we had the clinton era government spending whic we don't. >> brenda: okay. all right, we've got to go. thanks, guys. so, see this last year, it was a union uproar in wisconsin and now we're seeing this. a diffent state, same scene, neil and his gang sayg all taxpayers should be paying attention. that's at the bottom of the hour, but up herefirst, did you hear this? >> our people in an overwhelming supported this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo. >> brenda: a detroit council woman demanding a bailout after voting the president in. guess where the president is heading on monday? heading on monday? should taxpayeyeyeyeye [ malennouncer ] it's tt time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you realldon't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it findone, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super
if julian wants so much the clinton tax rates, that's fine, i'll go along with that if we had the clinton era government spending whic we don't. >> brenda: okay. all right, we've got to go. thanks, guys. so, see this last year, it was a union uproar in wisconsin and now we're seeing this. a diffent state, same scene, neil and his gang sayg all taxpayers should be paying attention. that's at the bottom of the hour, but up herefirst, did you hear this? >> our people in an overwhelming...
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he increased the income tax by 10%, but the huge surge in revenues under clinton came through the capital gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have do what the repblicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of t, but but the realitys the republican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a respnse to a, if you will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims thefield is on because there is no other standard flying over that field. there is a spker of the house to is simply saying, this is not right. you know, we are not at the table and complaining, but not, not engaging. >> i think we have got to engage the argument. we cannot win the argument while acknowledging that an increase in tax rates would increase revenues and all. it will just today the top 1 percent are paying about 40 percent of the income tax. the top 25 percent are paying 87% of the income tax. it does not get any better than that. this is under the bush tax rates. you eliminate the tax rates and you will get less
he increased the income tax by 10%, but the huge surge in revenues under clinton came through the capital gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have do what the repblicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of t, but but the realitys the republican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a respnse to a, if you will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims thefield is on because there...
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the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meetg with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and toda a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying hard to work hard with russia to stop the bloodshed in syria and begin a political transition to a post asad future the pressure against the regime in and aroundamascus seems to be increasing. lou: at home, leon pa net fa issuing the -- panetta issuinghe sharpest warning yet. >> the president of t united states made it clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using chemical weapons on their own people. lou: neither the white house or pentago
the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meetg with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and toda a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary...
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it's a plan that was partially taken from the former chief of staff for president bill clinton, one that the republicans put out yesterday, and it's one that democrats roundly rejected. >> republicans' plan, on the other hand, is more of the same. not only does it balance the budget on the backs of the middle class, but voids the promise to seniors with cuts to social security and medicare all to pay for handouts to the rich. at least we know where they stand. >> republicans are willing to make sure we don't go over the cliff, but, at the same time, don't harm the economy. what has to happen, the president needs to show leadership, sit in the room, stay here, get it done. that's why there was a proposal that's reasonable, meets his criteria. >> republicans say they have put a bipartisan plan forward. it's up to the white house to come back with their next proposal. the white house and democrats are saying republicans need to be willing to raise tax rates on families earning more than $250,000 a year as a prerequisite before talking about any of these structural changes that republicans w
it's a plan that was partially taken from the former chief of staff for president bill clinton, one that the republicans put out yesterday, and it's one that democrats roundly rejected. >> republicans' plan, on the other hand, is more of the same. not only does it balance the budget on the backs of the middle class, but voids the promise to seniors with cuts to social security and medicare all to pay for handouts to the rich. at least we know where they stand. >> republicans are...
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when anas repea asked repeatedls demanding the top rates return to the clinton administration in and the top rate was 39.6, he does not say yes, have to have that to get a deal. but he is not backing off his demands rates go up by some amount of wealthier families so the buzz is he might settle or compromise for something in between like 37%. there is speculation the president might compromise on the cut off my degree and a higher threshold by 500,000 per year before higher rates would kick in. in a speech in detroit the president extended a little olive branch republicans. >> i have said i would work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, jobs creation and reducing our deficits. and have some compromise between democrats and republicans, i understand people have a lot of different views, i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> the president met with speaker john boehner yesterday. not discussing any details of the conversations, just saying as you said at the top, lines of communications are open. also talking to senate majority leader harry reid today as well. everybody
when anas repea asked repeatedls demanding the top rates return to the clinton administration in and the top rate was 39.6, he does not say yes, have to have that to get a deal. but he is not backing off his demands rates go up by some amount of wealthier families so the buzz is he might settle or compromise for something in between like 37%. there is speculation the president might compromise on the cut off my degree and a higher threshold by 500,000 per year before higher rates would kick in....
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. >> ford is your we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of friends that clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to a slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. gerri: earlier i askd republican senator richard shelby of alabama for histake on the comments from boehner. >> i believe that speaker boehner is on the right track. the president has not come uptown now, been deeply involved, that we know about , in any of these offers are counterfers dealers said he has been campaigning to meet. but he has to get involved if he wants to avoid the fiscal liff. i think that the speaker has indicated that he will try to engage in, t to meet him and try to avoid the fiscal cleft that the presiient is gng to continue to say it is my way or the highway, that is another game. gei: it is. harry reid today saying that the game is at chess game, and the republicans are the jets. here is harry reid. >> he has a problem. he has three quarterbacks
. >> ford is your we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of friends that clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to a slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. gerri: earlier i askd republican senator richard shelby of alabama for histake on the comments from boehner. >> i believe that speaker boehner is on the right...
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. >> the president says, oh, go back a little bit to clinton's old tax rates, but he's not because clinton's rates affected everyone, not just the small sliver of the population. a 3.8% unearned income tax is kicking in on january 1st. gerri: obamacare. >> capital gains going from 15% to that 25*%. dividend taxes going 15% to 44% under current law without a thing done as far as the president obama wanting the taxes on the rich to go up. he's already done it. there's 1% medicare tax on people who earn over $250,000 a year. gerri: income tax. >> a payroll tax strictly. it's added to the medicare tax that's taken out, makes a small stop in the trust fund, and funds another program that the president likes. this is the problem. the president is not hoonest with us or the american people. he tells you he loves you and wants to take care of you, but the fact of the matter is, he's going to raise your taxes to a level that, in fact, it's going to kill economic activity in the country. how do we know? look what's happening. on your crawl on the television, dividends paid before december 31st, and wh
. >> the president says, oh, go back a little bit to clinton's old tax rates, but he's not because clinton's rates affected everyone, not just the small sliver of the population. a 3.8% unearned income tax is kicking in on january 1st. gerri: obamacare. >> capital gains going from 15% to that 25*%. dividend taxes going 15% to 44% under current law without a thing done as far as the president obama wanting the taxes on the rich to go up. he's already done it. there's 1% medicare tax...
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that is the key concern of anybody, it is not about the clintons in the water but the fact that the current practice is to dispose of the water as it is garbage into disposal wells and that water will never see the light of day. stuart: i have got to ask about the price. can you give me a rough idea how much it costs to clean the water from one well for one year? can you tell me? >> not in those terms exactly. our costs is going to be lower than the cost of the current practices of disposing of the water and replenishing the water with aquifer. our cost generally will be 80% or lower, 20% or 80% of the current cost, 40% lower or more than the current practices. stuart: i wanted dollar number. current practices cost how much? >> current practices in the texas area in the neighborhood of $2 -- [talking over each other] stuart: for what? >> $2 per barrel. a barrel is 42 gallons. it can be $8 for the same thing. we obviously are going to be comparative but we can deliver the water, clean water for lower-priced, it takes to dispose of it. stuart: that is a very interesting proposition. we apprec
that is the key concern of anybody, it is not about the clintons in the water but the fact that the current practice is to dispose of the water as it is garbage into disposal wells and that water will never see the light of day. stuart: i have got to ask about the price. can you give me a rough idea how much it costs to clean the water from one well for one year? can you tell me? >> not in those terms exactly. our costs is going to be lower than the cost of the current practices of...
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the white house position is that they must go back to clinton rates for top earners. that is nearly 40% on amounts of more than $250,000 a year. republicans have put $800 billion of unspecified tax revenue on the table but they're saying no to a tax rate increase. democrats have said no to that proposal.% in response to that a spokesman for house speaker john boehner saying despite republicans offer to put real revenue on the table the president has offered no concessions whatsoever. when will this willingness to compromise materialize??3 now republicans and democrats say there are no major meetings planned, no summit for democrats and republicans yet to get together and talk on this. the white house says they imagine that there is some e-mail traffic going back and forth but they refuse to tell us when and where they plan on negotiating this. back to you. ashley: i bet the language in the e-mail is pretty interesting too. >> right. ashley: rich edson, thanks so much. tracy: well more companies are accelerating their dividend payments. so we heard from campbell's soup
the white house position is that they must go back to clinton rates for top earners. that is nearly 40% on amounts of more than $250,000 a year. republicans have put $800 billion of unspecified tax revenue on the table but they're saying no to a tax rate increase. democrats have said no to that proposal.% in response to that a spokesman for house speaker john boehner saying despite republicans offer to put real revenue on the table the president has offered no concessions whatsoever. when will...
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later they will really ever do it, given that they never have -- not in the reagan era, not in the clinton era? >> yep. very good point, my friend. i think you hit the nail on the held, because what i'm hearing is that they may say we'll set targets, we'll have a specific target for tax reform, for entitlement reform, and by god, if we don't hit that target by summer, we'll have a sequester. i mean, how many times are we going to hear this before the credit rating agencies say enough is enough? dennis: now, you're thinking maybe there's a chance, greg, that they do something up front now regarding social security cola adjustments, cost of living, so you change the formula to pay out less as well as medicare sometimes adjusted for the wealthy to give them less or make them pay more? >> yeah. i can't see the republicans agreeing to higher tax rates. let's say we go up to 38%. i don't think we're going to 39.6. but for the republicans to agree to 38, they've got to get something in return. so, yeah, i keep a couple -- i think a couple specific entitlement reforms. the promise is much more nex
later they will really ever do it, given that they never have -- not in the reagan era, not in the clinton era? >> yep. very good point, my friend. i think you hit the nail on the held, because what i'm hearing is that they may say we'll set targets, we'll have a specific target for tax reform, for entitlement reform, and by god, if we don't hit that target by summer, we'll have a sequester. i mean, how many times are we going to hear this before the credit rating agencies say enough is...
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secretary of state hillary clinton saying today that future of syria can not possibly include bashar al-assad. >>> 2,000 people gathering at pearl harbor observing the 70th anniversary of attack. in december 7, 1941 a japanese attack killed thousands of americans, thrusting the united states into world war ii. a moment of silence was observed at 7.59 a.m., exactly when the bombing began. that is the news from fox. back to you, tracy. tracy: arthel, thank you very much. the federal government will still be spending trillions of dollars a year with basically no plan to pay for it, hello. rich edson in d.c. to talk about this. you know what? nothing is really going to change, is it? >> right now congress is just trying to figure out how to replace a trillion dollars in automatic spending cuts over the next decade. even with that nearly $100 forecast to grow over the next 10 years. mostly thanks to increases in health care spending on medicare and medicaid. the feds are expected to spend more than $3.5 this fiscal year. nearly 3.6 trillion in 2014. 4 trillion in 2016 and 5 trillion by 20
secretary of state hillary clinton saying today that future of syria can not possibly include bashar al-assad. >>> 2,000 people gathering at pearl harbor observing the 70th anniversary of attack. in december 7, 1941 a japanese attack killed thousands of americans, thrusting the united states into world war ii. a moment of silence was observed at 7.59 a.m., exactly when the bombing began. that is the news from fox. back to you, tracy. tracy: arthel, thank you very much. the federal...